Winston-Salem man arrested by tactical team looking for marijuana

Ryan Nicholas stands in front of the home he was arrested in by the Winston-Salem Police Department SWAT team. Nicholas spent eight months in the Forsyth County jail before being released and cleared of all charges. (Andrew Dye/Journal)

Ryan Nicholas stands in front of the home he was arrested in by the Winston-Salem Police Department SWAT team. Nicholas spent eight months in the Forsyth County jail before being released and cleared of all charges. (Andrew Dye/Journal)

WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. — Across the United States, law enforcement agencies are becoming more militarized, according to a recent American Civil Liberties Union report. The Journal begins today a series about how the Winston-Salem Police Department and the Forsyth County Sheriff’s Office use their respective SWAT teams. Today, we examine the case of Ryan Nicholas. Next Sunday, an overview of the use of SWAT in Winston-Salem.

The Winston-Salem Police Department was looking for a marijuana plant when 18 SWAT officers launched a raid April 8, 2011, blasting into a house near Miller Park using an explosive device.

The marijuana plant was a no-show.

The raid, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, highlights concerns raised in a report that the organization released recently about the militarization of police departments nationwide.

“Is that the type of offense that warrants a military-style raid without so much as a knock on the door?” Mike Meno, a spokesman for the ACLU-NC, said last week, referring to the marijuana plant. “Things can escalate very quickly.”

Once in the house, police investigators stumbled upon 2 ounces of marijuana and a bong. They also stumbled upon Ryan Nicholas, 34, who had moved into the house just three weeks before the raid. In his room, they found no marijuana, just a digital scale and what they believed was an illegal mushroom. It wasn’t. Nicholas was clean, prosecutors would later say.

Nicholas got cuffed, charged and locked up for eight months.

Matt Bremer, who, according to police, was dangerous enough to warrant the use of a SWAT team and a no-knock raid, was not in the house. He later admitted that the marijuana was his.

Police departments nationwide increasingly use SWAT teams not for emergencies, such as situations involving a hostage or an active shooter, but to carry out routine police work, such as searching for a small amount of drugs, according to the ACLU report. Another concern, according to the report, is that the raids are being done without enough transparency by police or oversight by elected officials.

The ACLU reviewed 800 SWAT raids in 20 states. It found that most – 79 percent – were done to execute a search warrant, most commonly in drug investigations. Only 7 percent were for hostage, barricade, or active-shooter scenarios.

In Meno’s view, the public should have access to information from police departments that shed light on such things as SWAT team deployments by crime, the requesting agency, or the purpose for the raid – for example, to serve a warrant, arrest someone, diffuse a hostage crisis – the number of no-knock warrants applied for, the uses of force by all SWAT teams, all injuries incurred by anyone at the scene.

In an exchange of emails with the Winston-Salem Journal, the city last week provided information contained in incident reports involving SWAT that is considered public record. Another article focusing on SWAT will highlight that information next Sunday.

The Forsyth County Sheriff’s Office is in the process of gathering similar information based on the Journal’s request for public records.

Police didn’t know what to expect

Police Chief Barry Rountree and other high-ranking police officers stood by their decision to deploy the SWAT team in the raid at that house near Miller Park.

They said that the use of SWAT is reserved for potentially dangerous situations, usually involving someone who may have weapons. They said that they strongly believe the use of SWAT, or Special Weapons and Tactics, helps protect the safety of police officers, the suspect and the general public.

Police Capt. Scott Bricker said that police officers had reason to believe that Bremer was dangerous and had access to weapons.

About a year before the raid, Bremer, a former Marine who served three tours of duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom, had threatened a police officer, Bricker said. He suffered from PTSD, or post traumatic stress disorder, Bricker said. And, according to an informant, he was intent on harming police officers.

Relaying what Bremer told the police officer in the confrontation a year before the raid, Bricker said: “If you didn’t have that gun on your hip and if I had more than a double-barrel shotgun, we could have more of a fair gunfight.”

Attempts to contact Bremer were unsuccessful.

Police officers didn’t know what they would run into when they prepared to go after Bremer and what police believed was a marijuana plant.

“Could the door be booby-trapped?” Bricker said.

Rountree said in a separate interview about the general use of SWAT that the ultimate goal is to protect public safety.

“If the bad guy is in control, we have a bad situation,” he said.

Was raid on house overkill?

“Boom! They blew the rear basement door to smithereens,” Nicholas said.

On the day of the raid, Nicholas saw from his bedroom window patrol cars swarm into the neighborhood. It had to be something going on at a neighbor’s house, he said. After he heard the blast, he went to the front porch to find out what was happening, he said.

“The whole road was blocked off. Cops were behind cars. There were firearms pointed at me from every direction,” he said.

A police officer, he said, was barking a command: Get on the ground. Put your hands in the air.

In a panic, Nicholas said, he got confused. He didn’t know how to obey both commands at the same time. To get on the ground, he’d have to drop his hands. To keep his hands in the air, he’d have to fall like a tree to the ground.

Nicholas froze.

“I didn’t know what to do because I felt like they would just shoot me,” he said.

Rountree said Nicholas was not obeying verbal commands and that is why a police officer tackled him to the ground.

Nicholas was in police custody and police investigators were inside the house. They didn’t find what had triggered the raid – the marijuana plant or Bremer – but they did discover marijuana in the basement.

Meanwhile, outside, Nicholas talked freely with the police, he said, because they told him he had nothing to worry about if his room was clean. It was clean, Nicholas was convinced.

So he talked.

Nicholas told police investigators that he had previously smoked marijuana in the house but said he did not know of anyone in the house growing marijuana. He also admitted that he had been convicted on a charge of possessing illegal mushrooms about three or four years ago when one of the officers recognized him.

“I have no problem being forthcoming. I have nothing to hide. I did not think they would use it against me,” he said.

In the end, all that was in Nicholas’ room was a digital scale, which he said he uses to weigh dietary supplements, and a mushroom.

Rountree said that police investigators had probable cause to bring Nicholas up on charges. The marijuana in the basement could have been his, the digital scale could have been used to weigh drugs and the mushroom may have been illegal considering Nicholas’ past conviction.

Vince Rabil, an assistant N.C. capital defender, who has 17 years’ experience as a prosecutor and seven years as a defender, said the raid reminded him of another one that killed police officer Bobby Beane in 1993.

It didn’t involve SWAT but it was a violent no-knock raid. Police weren’t looking for a murder suspect, just drugs and a suspect, James Lyons. The suspect said he thought he was getting robbed, so he started firing and a bullet struck Beane.

Rabil, a prosecutor at the time, was in the audience when Lyons was on trial. Judge Julius Rousseau, Rabil said, reprimanded the police department: “A good police sergeant has now been killed over a little mess of marijuana.”

Jailed for eight months

All the charges that police investigators brought against Nicholas as a result of the raid were dropped several months after the raid when the Forsyth County District Attorney’s Office found that police had provided insufficient evidence to prosecute him.

Nicholas stayed in jail for a long time while his case crawled through the criminal justice system, partly because he could not afford to pay bond and partly because of the time it took the state crime lab to test whether the mushroom that police investigators had found in his room during the raid was illegal.

In the end, the mushroom turned out not to be illegal.

“You would think that a narcotics officer would know the difference between an illegal mushroom and the one in my room,” Nicholas said.

Nicholas stayed behind bars for eight months, from April to December, until he was finally released on an unsecured bond.

“I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy,” Nicholas said.

Prosecutors eventually dropped all the charges against him. Jim O’Neill, the Forsyth district attorney, said that delays at the state crime lab must be dealt with. Cities such as Charlotte and Raleigh, even Iredell County, have their own crime labs.

“We need to get a lab here,” O’Neill said. “Not only would it benefit local law enforcement, but it would also benefit those individuals who may be exonerated by an expeditious lab test.”

After filing a complaint with the police department and then going to the city’s Citizens Police Review Board, Nicholas’ appeal for a hearing was denied earlier this year.

Casey Leftwich, a member of the review board, declined to talk specifically about why the appeal for a hearing was denied. But he seemed to empathize with Nicholas.

“We all agree that it was a bad situation for him,” he said.

Nicholas said he wants to let the police department know: “This is what you put me through.”

“I hope what happened to me – it’s kind of like taking one for the team of society. If it helps someone else, that would be nice,” Nicholas said.

42 comments

  • news2me

    I would hope that this man would be reimbursed($$$) for his false arrest. This is so unbelievable. I am usually 100% on the side of our Police but you can see OVERKILL when it is staring you right in the face. Looks like someone is out for a Power Drive..

    • matt

      Thats what most of these cops are power hungry. They speed, 55mph or more in 35mile zone, dont wear seat belts no turn signals when turning let you do it they pull you over. Law enforcement for the most break the law but want to enforce the law when its not them breaking the law such as speeding, talking texting on computer or cell phone or texting on there work computer inside patrol car no diff than texting on cell phone. Wheres equal rights The cops think they are above the law

  • matt

    I know what this man went threw I went threw the same BS back in 2011 When i had about 12 Winston Salem PD come to my house saying a confidential informant ( Bobby Clayton ) which i all ready new who it was said i had a arsenal of weapons and a huge amount of drugs I told all the WSPD to search wont find nothing The only thing they found was a shot gun the cop said where are the rest of the guns at. I said there are none he said BS i told him to go F him self asked where the drugs were i said i have none. Don’t do drugs the one WSPD said this is ridiculous. I told him yea and your point is he admitted the so called CI ( Bobby Clayton ) was a liar. The so called CI ( Bobby Clayton ) wanted me to teach every thing i know. Was put on 3 yrs probation no community service no fine was off probation in 1.5 yrs the prosecutor told the judge this is some one that was trying to cause trouble and is a trouble maker and was a wast of law enforcements time. So i know what this man went threw luckily i posted bond and was out the same day of the county hotel. Cops need to investigate further than to take the statement of a person that has no motive except a grudge from a CI such as Bobby Clayton.

      • busterjangle

        It appears as though that is exactly what he’s saying.
        Unfortunately, police departments nationwide are being steadily militarized. Assault rifles, MRAPS, etc.
        Look at the uniforms! Jackboots, face masks akin to those one would expect a bank robber or a terrorist to wear, all black etc.

        It really is a shame.I’m sure that if he would have had a dog in the house they would have shot it. (regardless of the breed)

        Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of good, honest and decent police officers left, just not enough to use the argument as a defense.

        Blowing the basement door for allegedly having ONE PLANT??? Really??? It seems as though you can travel a few hundred miles in any direction from Winston Salem and legally (and openly) purchase a plethora of marijuana based products in one of many comfortable and safe retail environments.
        Research the revenue that this is generating for these states. It’s a NO BRAINER.

        Here’s an interesting tidbit ~
        When a person is convicted of a marijuana offense in NC, the court may order him to reimburse the law enforcement agency for money spent in purchasing marijuana as part of an undercover operation.
        Source – http://norml.org/laws

        With draconian laws like these in NC, states such as Colorado and Washington might as well be on another planet.
        It’s been a long time since one could honestly say that their local police departments were employed to
        “Protect and Serve”
        Keeping said laws alive keeps the black market alive and makes a lot of norml, respectable, everyday people criminals.
        (Although their not criminals for their alcohol use, don’t get me started comparing the pros and cons of alcohol vs. marijuana)

        Keeping these laws around also generates a lot of revenue for the state.
        Sentencing non violent marijuana offenders (Which come in all shapes and sizes, all walks of life, all professions) to pull active sentences stimulates the privately owned / contracted prison sector’s economy by filling beds and providing what might as well be sweatshop / slave labor.
        The majority of these privately held prisons have a NO empty bed policy (agreement) with their respective contacts at\the government level.

        I could go on for days providing my soap box held up.
        Do your research folks! Keep your eyes forward, head down, chin up, lips sealed and all that good stuff.
        Good luck folks…. and Godspeed.

      • matt

        FaithC
        So what you are saying is Bobby Clayton is/was a confidential informant for the WSPD?
        Yes FaithC thats is what i am saying has called the WSPD on so many people and accused and later was found Bobby Clayton lied. He has accused me of trying to run him over but cell phone and house phone records proved he lied again I still have those records. He stays or used to stay in the apartments off of University Parkway by Golden Correll I know he did but not sure if still does drives a small silver/ grey suv with firefighter k9 some thing on the window of the suv

        BE PRE WARNED LEAVE ALONE HE WILL CALL THE COPS ON YOU AND TELL YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF DRUGS AND A ARSENAL OF WEAPONS ( 26 ) WSPD will come 10 at least with spot lights shinning in your window and arrest you on lies then later charges dropped.

  • Stephanie Denton

    Yes I feel like after someone is in this situation The law needs to get off there butt and wrap it up…No man should have to endure jail at all if there not guilty ..Sounds like they drug there feet. I feel for you Nicholas I hope you can get justice and a apology or more..I have always believed in the law until recently .. They have a lot of lope holes and every excuse for dragging things on and on… They have taken 8 months of this mans life he can’t get back.. Shame on you the system does not always work.. Until you are in another mans shoes are going through this with law . You think there is know way that will happen to me…

  • mimilll

    It seems like NC LAW enforcement do NOT need to uphold people’s rights any more…..When a law enforcement can *Push their way into a 3rd party residence* without permission from the homeowner and WITHOUT OBTAINING A SEARCH WARRANT when the homeowner insisted that the get one….and then tell the homeowner she better *sit down and shut up or she would be arrested*……one might say that YES, there are problems…..BIG PROBLEMS****to say the very least.

  • Jack

    This is the risk you take when you hang around drug addict losers. When you know it is going on in the house, you are putting yourself at risk of cops busting in. These guys are are scumbags. Female assaults, duis, drug possession charges…this article seems to paint the guy as a victim but I think when you associate with people like this you should know your life is not going to benefit in a positive way from it.

    • Luke

      Try looking at some facts and statistics for a change before you so boldly out yourself as the ignorant, self-righteous dumbass that you clearly are. Look up marijuana death tolls compared to alcohol, tobacco, prescription drugs, and pretty much anything else that could possibly kill someone. Then, look at how many of your had earned tax dollars have been spent on a failing drug war. Afraid legalization will turn your neighborhood into a war zone? Take a look at how the states that have decriminalized it are doing. And don’t forget to look up their economic growth while you’re at it. Try educating yourself for a change rather than jumping into the 100 year old bandwagon driven by William Randolph Hearst……dumbass.

  • Doc Bennett

    I have a sure fire way to keep the WSPD or any cops out of your house.
    1) don’t do drugs
    2) don’t sell drugs
    3) don’t hang out with people that do
    4) don’t brag about having ; drugs, guns, or money to your friends on probation

    Follow these rules and life will be good.

    Or don’t and come on here and complain about how bad the Police are. Just remember that the next time you call 911

    • Rex

      You hit the nail right on the head Doc. Hang around stupid people, expect to face the consequences!

      • mojorisin73

        I see 2 right here that don’t know what Constitutional rights are. Our founders would not had stood for having militarized law enforcement terrorizing its own citizens. You can ask anyone who’s lived under militarized law in places like nazi Germany or the former Soviet Union. People like you 2 are a big part of the reason why our country is becoming more and more a police state. smh “One who gives up liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security” —Benjamin Franklin

      • Justsaying

        Mojo, are you really comparing a police raid for illegal drugs to Nazis murdering thousands of people?!?! And please tell me which of this man’s constitutional rights were violated. If any of them were don’t you think you’d be hearing of the impending lawsuit rather than his gripes to the news. Come on man

  • A

    This guy Bremer has multiple DUIs, assault on a female, possession, and selling drugs within 1000 feet of a school and this guy Ryan Nicholas wants to act like he didn’t know unlawful stuff was going on in the house like he is a victim. These guys are some losers and aren’t newsworthy at all.

  • John Smith

    That’s what we need to do…..spend our tax dollars hiring, paying, and paying (40 years of pension expense/medical expense) for a bunch of sloppy fat soon-to-be diabetic law enforcement types to go crashing in to people’s homes. And here in Davidson County we have numerous ex prosecutors who are avid weed smokers/sellers. Ain’t it wonderful to live in NC!

  • dewey

    “They said that they strongly believe the use of SWAT, or Special Weapons and Tactics, helps protect the safety of police officers, the suspect and the general public.”
    ……the suspect??? Really???…..why is it when you want to kill yourself, the cops have to show up and help out…very rarely do they NOT shoot the suspect, even when said suspect was only wanting to harm himself

    • Justsaying

      Define “very rarely”….and cite sources please. I think you’ll find that the number of officer involved shootings when SWAT is called out is extremely low.

  • l337g33k

    Sadly, a pathetic reporting attempt to stir the liberalism pot. Newsflash, guns and drugs go TOGETHER. Especially when there is info that a person wants to harm cops and may be unstables; e.g. PTSD. And make this guy out to be a victim? He knows there are drugs there. He’s even a drug user. Waaaaaahhhh

    • Asheboro Man

      So you are saying that drugs and guns go together… Does that mean that if you own a gun you are doing drugs? All of the conservatives are fighting for the right to own guns, including assault rifles and other large weapons. If we take away guns does that get rid of the drugs also? Your attempt at stirring the political pot is sad. You contradicted yourself. Also, just because the young man used drugs a couple of times does not make him a hardcore drug user. That is like saying because you speed once in a while that you are a race car driver.

      • l337g33k

        Your reading comprehension is also sad, as well as this ability of yours to draw far fetched conclusions. Let me try and explain it so you may understand it. Drugs and guns go together. Meaning those who sell / traffic drugs use firearms as tools of the trade in order to protect themselves and product. This fact is even cemented by several court cases, including but not limited to, US v Johnson; US v Blackstone. Ever read all those stories about home invasions? Marijuana deals result in the most frequent violence and/or murder. Another example, the recent A&T campus homicide earlier this year; “drug deal gone wrong.”

        How in the world did you go off on that tangent? And did I say this guy was a “hardcore” drug user? NOPE. He’s clearly a drug user, even if recreational, living in a house with a drug dealer and drugs.

        C’mon guy. SMH

  • Robert

    I guess PTSD made that guy sell weed and threaten cops…. Too many people use that as a cop out. He brings shame to the nation’s military.

  • Hugh Stoner

    Ryan Nicholas. Get yourself a lawyer, a really good one because you’ll be able to afford it. Find a big city lawyer from New York or L.A. they will work for free until the case is settled.(pro bono). Sue the pants off the Police force. You are owed a whole lot due to what you had to endure. It won’t cost you, the lawyer will foot the bill. Once you get a huge settlement go to Colorado and start your own MJ business.

    • Justsaying

      How do you figure? Sounds like the police had a valid search warrant and used tactics approved and upheld by numerous courts. Oh wait….and there was ILLEGAL marijuana in the house. Argue whether weed should be illegal all you want, but don’t cry foul when you live with a drug user with violent tendencies who threatens police and you get caught in the middle of a raid. But I’m sure Nicholas will argue he had no idea that was going on. Riiiiight…..

      • Hugh Stoner

        They violated his civil right to freedom. You can’t lock someone up for eight months for no reason. Only by having these rouge Police agencies forfeit their money can we end this stupid war on Americans. It sounds like a total set up anyway a swat team? For one pot plant? The PTSD vet needed pot for medication. The cops have a ingrained hatred of marijuana and it’s users. Also police forces use these busts to account for their federal Byrne grants. (cop welfare from big government ). They also pocket all the money they find on a pot bust (robbery by cop). Cops up to now have everything to win with pot busts and nothing to lose. By suing for a few million dollars maybe their policies will change.
        If it’s probono representation on a civil rights matter, I don’t see any reason not to sue.

    • Justsaying

      They had probable cause to charge him with possession of a controlled substance, which a magistrate would also have to agree with in order for him to go to jail. Let me educate you….he sat in jail because he did not post bond, not because he was held without bond. He also would have had periodic bond hearings in court to readdress his bond amount. Which means that a judge also agreed with the charge and did not reduce or waive his bond. Many criminal charges brought forth are later dismissed by the DA; and not because of a lack of evidence or because the charge was bad. This routinely occurs when the DA’s office balances an offenders criminal record with the severity of the charge as well as the cost to pursue the charge in court. And the police department does not keep all the money from drug seizures, most of it goes into the public education fund. The SWAT team wasn’t called in because of the “pot plant”, but because of the threats toward law enforcement made by Nicholas’ room mate. Like someone else said, there’s an easy way to avoid being raided by the police and it starts with not being involved in criminal activity.

      • Hugh Stoner

        Ryan, don’t listen to anybody but a big city lawyer. Did leave a detailed post earlier I think it was deleted. You have a chance to teach them a lesson. Time to cash in. Just saying..

    • FaithC

      Hugh shut up and go help that person at the drive thru order their double cheese burger you f. Loser!!

  • busterjangle

    @Robert –
    Marijuana consumption is beneficial for many PTSD sufferers. Robert, step up to the front line in any armed conflict. Put yourself in a kill or be killed situation. Do it for an entire deployment. (or two). Leave your friends and family behind in doing so, Not knowing
    if you’ll come home in a bag or on two legs. (Or no legs).
    At that point you will be in a position to discuss PTSD. PTSD is a subjective condition.

    @Justsaying – Perhaps you can “just say” your uninformed, babble elsewhere. His rights were absolutely violated.
    North Carolina and the Federal government are hanging on to unrealistic, antiquated laws regarding marijuana.
    We lost many of our rights shortly after September 11, 2001 with the swift, quiet passing of the Patriot Act.
    We lost even more when the second Patriot Act was pushed through while the majority of the nation was not paying attention.
    This happens more often than we care to admit. Usually the nation is transfixed on big media’s coverage of whatever
    scandal/sport or story that happens to catch the nation’s attention.

    Indefinite military detentions of U.S. citizens, Arresting witnesses for recording police actions, Using GPS to track your every move, Surveillance drones spying on American soil, Arbitrary justice, Immunity from judicial review, Continual monitoring of citizens the list goes on and on.

    The United States incarcerates more people than any other country in the world: a half million more than China (total population: 1.37 billion, prison population: 1.64 million) , which has a population over four times greater than the U.S (total population: 318 million, prison population: 2.24 million).

    Statistics reveal that the United States holds 25% of the world’s prison population, but only 5% of the world’s people. U.S. imprisonment rate (prison population rate: 716) is almost 50 percent higher than Russia’s (p.P.R.: 484) and 320 percent higher than China’s (p.P.R.: 124 / 172 incl. Re-education through labor).

    Free?
    Only if you don’t know what freedom means.

    Want to build something?
    Sure you can. First go get permission to file a permit. Hope you have money to pay for it. Then you better follow every rule and regulation or your permit may be denied and if you build anyway you are hauled off to jail.

    Want to exercise your second amendment rights?
    Better hope you have the money to pay for a permit and you better hope it actually makes it to you in time before you may need to use force to defend yourself. Better have a good reason or you may be denied.

    Want to bring food to hungry people in the park? You better go pay for a permit first and ask your rulers permission. No permit? You go to jail.

    Want to smoke pot (a far less harmful substance than tobacco or alcohol) by yourself and bother nobody?
    Go to jail.

    Want to protest?
    You have to find the spot where they allow you do do such. If the group gets too big then you need a permit.
    The proud police will show up in intimidating riot gear and spray you with water and chemicals, hit you with batons, blast you with noise and/or haul you off to jail for disturbing the peace or disorderly conduct or any number of other catch-all reasons to toss people in cages for harming no one. (so the profits of the police state and privately owned prisons aren’t undermined.)
    Land of the free?

    Sooner or later it IS going to hit close to home for you.
    For all of us.
    Life as we know it is going to change sooner than you realize.

    @mojorisin73 – Amen to that “One who gives up liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security” —Benjamin Franklin

    @ Jack – Wow, Are you sure your in a position to judge? Stop being a keyboard warrior. Or a troll. Pick one. Or both.
    Be a man. Out yourself. Stand and face YOUR judgement. I’m sure somebody around here would love to take a crack at it. I’m fairly certain that I know who you are and you are in absolutely NO position to judge. Anybody.

    @justsaying – It’s hard to wrap one’s head around just how uninformed you are about what’s going on in your
    own country. I definitely know who you are. Your vocabulary and your ego piqued my suspicion so I did a little digging and BINGO! I was right :)
    I’ve always hated how judgmental, narrow minded and just plain simple you are “in real life”. Seriously.
    I have wanted to tell you as long as I’ve known you that you are a simpleton. You really are.
    You are, however, still entitled to your opinions. We all are. (I respect that. What is it they say about opinions?)
    I’m just really tired of listening to your opinions as you are really narrow minded, hypocritical and uneducated.
    (No big surprise considering where you went to school. We both know that school’s primary focus was/is not education.)

    It’ll happen soon though. I’ll voice my opinion to you, about you, and yours and it will be glorious!
    It’ll be worth the years I’ve been waiting. :)

    The internet is a gold mine of information. The amount of people around that are uneducated and just plain uninformed is staggering.
    Read up people.
    Learn something.
    If nothing else, READ A BOOK!

    Well, That was quite fun! Soapbox time over!
    Take care folks. Be safe. Be SMART!

  • Hugh Stoner

    When did To serve and protect become To search and harass and jail for eight months until you are let go with no charges filed. That’s eight months of a young mans life. Worth quite a bit according to actuaries. Plus pain and suffering along with punitive damages. I;m pretty sure when the filing starts the city’s liability lawyers will offer up a big fat settlement.

  • Mike Parent

    We’d all be better off if the police focused on crimes that have actual victims!

    Does anyone honestly believe that wasting $20 Billion and arresting 3/4 Million Americans annually for choosing a substance Scientifically proven to be safer than what the govt allows, is a sound policy?
    ^

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