Georgia governor signs ‘guns everywhere bill’

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ELLIJAY, Ga. — Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding.

House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 — which opponents have nicknamed the “guns everywhere bill” — specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons.

Included are provisions for taking guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports.

GeorgiaCarry, which lobbied for the bill, calls it “meaningful pro-gun legislation,” despite it being watered down from the group’s perspective.

Still, the group has lauded the legislation, which will go into effect July 1.

Americans for Responsible Solutions opposed the bill, calling it “extremism in action.”

45 comments

  • Vasu Murti

    A gun in one’s home is 22 times more likely to be used to kill or injure in a criminal assault or homicide, an attempted or completed suicide, or unintentional shooting than to kill or injure in self-defense. (Kellermann, AL et al, 1998 Journal of Trauma, 42:263-67)

    In the U.S., 8 children and teenagers are killed, and more than 47 are injured, by a firearm every day. (CDC, NCHS, December 2006)

    The risk of homicide in the home is three times greater in households with guns. (Kellermann, et al, New England Journal of Medicine, 1993)

    The risk of suicide is five times greater in households with guns. (Kellermann et al, New England journal of Medicine, 1992)

    A 1990 law banning the sale of “Saturday Night Special” handguns in Maryland was associated with reduced use of these guns by criminals, and a 9% lower rate of firearm homicides in the state between 1990-1998 than would have been expected had there been no law.

    Policies that deny handgun purchases to individuals with prior misdemeanor or felony convictions are associated with a decreased risk of subsequent convictions. Misdemeanants who had allowed to purchase handguns prior to the passage of a California state law prohibiting such purchases had a rate of criminal offending 29% higher than that among misdemeanants who were denied handgun purchases after the law took effect.

    Every day in the U.S., 8 children and teenagers are killed and more than 47 are injured by a firearm.

    In 2005, 595 California children and youth under age 21 were killed with firearms and 1,554 California children and youth under 21 were hospitalized with nonfatal firerarms injuries.

    One-third of U.S. children live in homes with firearms. Almost half of homes with children and firearms keep a gun unlocked.

    68% of the attackers in school shootings obtained the gun(s) from their own home or that of a relative. 61% of the attackers used handguns.

    Many young children, including children as young as three years old, are strong enough to fire a handgun.

    In 2004, guns were used to kill:

    5 people in New Zealand
    37 in Sweden
    56 in Australia
    73 in England and Wales
    184 in Canada

    and 11,344 in the United States. God bless America.

    • Jethro Bodink

      AWESOME stats!!! Now give us some stats on how many people die because of smoking, alcohol abuse, drunk driving, illegal drugs (overdose) and car wrecks. OH and by the way, guns don’t kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

      • Ean Charter

        2006 is 8 years ago, so, the range is a lot bigger. And yes, statistics from that long ago should be shown. We learn from the past, so data like that is useful.

    • Todd

      how many murders or deaths are from mental illness or some form of it? I’m sure the criminals will just turn in their guns.

    • Stephen

      and when you get robbed at gun point by a criminal who WILL NOT follow gun control laws, you will call a cop, who will then show up with a……..what? for 25,000 bonus points…

      • Ean Charter

        So you pull out your gun? That will get you shot, since you already have a gun in your face. Give him what he wants. Let insurance cover it. Call the police. Don’t throw your life away over a phone and $400.

    • rick

      If you take out all of the gang an drug related deaths in America, our per capita statics are very low. Your points are grossly inflated…

    • Richard Nance

      All I’m gonna say is if a person wants a Gun & is going to commit a crime of murder, larceny, breaking & entering, shooting up a school or whatever, that Person is NOT going to go to the Local gun shop where he/she Knows there will be some type of Check on his/her background therefore this same person will purchase a gun from a friend, a family member or from someone on the Street that sells guns of all Kinds plus ammo & then that person will carry out his Plans to do whatever he planned to do in the 1st place & No Amount of Ban on Guns, background checks, blah, blah blah will Hinder this person to do what he/she sets out to do & that’s just the simple truth & also remember I’ve Never known a gun to jump up & kill somebody, its the Person that’s squeezing the trigger…..

  • JT

    Brilliant–I can hear the Tea Party now: “Dingadangdong, Cleatus! We must be in heaven! Guns everwhur! Murca! Freedom!” and then they shoot each other. I know what we’re gonna hear next–“Guns don’t kill people–people kill people.” Yeah, but the gun helps. The next thing we hear is “The people of Georgia will be safer cause now there’s good guys with guns everywhere to shoot the bad guys with guns.” Seems odd–we have a problem with something, and our solution is more of the problem. By this logic, if we have a problem with people using cocaine, what we need is more cocaine. Smart. With all of this said, yes, I am, in fact, a gun owner. But as I have said before, they are too easy to get and there are WAY too many stupid people with them. I see this all the time–people who cannot read above a 3rd grade level own semi-automatic handguns and rifles. If you have to take a test to drive a car, why wouldn’t you have to take one to purchase a gun? What about proving you have a place to secure the weapon under lock and key so kids don’t get them or criminals don’t steal them and sell them on the street? What about mandatory background checks on ALL gun purchases? What happened to common sense?

      • Adam Z.

        Ean – If the proverbial **** hits the fan, and you’re in fear for your life, which wouldn’t you rather have reasonable means by which to defend yourself and your loved ones IMMEDIATELY rather than having to dial a phone & hope that someone makes it there in time? I’m don’t mean to sound snarky about it – just trying to help you see a different point of view ;)

  • Adam Z.

    In 1994, as concealed handgun legislation was sweeping through multiple states, opponents warned that there would be “blood running in the streets” as a result. Hasn’t happened. Here in NC, when our legislature passed a 2013 bill that proposed allowing concealed handgun permit holders to legally carry in establishments that serve alcohol, as well as establishments that charge an admission fee, we heard the same warnings of blood in the streets & drunken shootouts at Applebees. That law went into effect on October 1st, and I don’t see any kind of negative impact from it. Where are the drunken shootouts at Applebees that we were “warned” of? This same bill allows permit holders to have a firearm stored in an enclosed compartment of a locked vehicle while on educational property too. I don’t see that NC has had an uptick in school shootings (the fear of the bill’s detractors) as a result.

    • JT

      You do have a point, William, but I’d like for you to read Thompson and Desuka–the articles should be pretty easy to find online. As a synopsis, yes, Chicago does have a higher violent crime rate. However, there are a lot of other variables you are leaving out of the equation. Population density, socio-economic disparities–heck, even whether or not you own your own home factor into homicide rates. So the answer isn’t as simple as “give everybody a gun and the good guys will shoot all the bad guys.” There are a myriad of other issues–including gun laws–to take into consideration when evaluating crime stats.

  • a man

    Good point William. and the reason for that is if you take the guns away from the law abiding citizens, it only gives the criminals an advantage. i have ccw and i carry almost everywhere. my home has several guns in different places. i understand a lot of deaths come from guns in the US, and i assure everyone that before me or my family is harmed by someone i will ad 1 more to that list. i truly believe the best way to deter a criminal from commiting violent crimes is everybody else carry a weapon for protection. all of a sudden the once useless brain of a criminal weighs his/her options more clearly.

    • Ean Charter

      You truly believe something stupid then. Criminals don’t stop at the last second because they see a gun. First off, personal injury or death is a known-risk when engaging in criminal activity. Secondly, people will rob GUN STORES, aka places with more guns, and more people with guns, than you or your family. The only thing allowing everyone to carry weapons does is give irresponsible people guns. Most people in this country can barely take care of a pet, and you want to give them something that can easily kill someone, on accident or on purpose.

      • targetsacquired

        Do you own a car? Im curious since with your intellect, you should have had to undergo a background check, submit your fingerprints to the FBI, wait 3 months for your licence and only be allowed to drive a ’74 Pinto with a 4cylinder and a manual.

  • Stephen

    Vasu, why don’t you just stay away from guns yourself and leave everyone else alone? If someone wants to rob me, I’ll guide them your way, because you offer no resistance.

  • Stephen

    I know this will irk the true American terrorists (otherwise known as liberals, or democrats). I love God, my country, and guns! There ya go! That should really make them mad!

    • dewey

      nothing wrong with loving your country or your gun….I do love mine….but who is this doG fellow you speak of

      • Jethro Bodink

        God is the great I AM. He is the creator. He is the Alpha and the Omega. He is the beginning and the end. He is awesome. If you’re not for Him you’re against Him. I am for Him!!!

  • a man

    say what you want but i promise you i can and will stop a criminal if need be, and i will do so with my weapon. i understand what you are saying as far as it isnt for everyone. i will even go as far as to say that the background checks before getting a gun should be far more detailed and any hickups in that check should void the whole process. im not saying every idiot should carry. i also will say that gun training should be a must in order to own a firearm. which would cut down on accidental shootings greatly. however, i am a law abiding citizen with no criminal or mental health records. i am ex military who has extensive gun training, and i do believe that if more people like myself carried weapons for protection, it would definately cut down on violent crimes. in 1 way it would help is it would rid the world of the people that commit such crimes 1 by 1, and the other is that it would make such said criminals think twice on who they mess with. FYI… my wife carries too, and i have faith she will never be a victim you read about on Fox 8.

    • dewey

      you already sound like a victim….anyone who starts out a sentence with “say what you want but i promise you i can and will stop a criminal if need be, and i will do so with my weapon.”….that’s usually the first one shot

    • JT

      And that’s where I am, a man–I do not support bans (they do not work), magazine capacity limits, or other “cosmetic” gun control laws (outlawing flash suppressors, etc.). I am in favor of common sense legislation–background/mental health checks, making sure one can safely store a weapon, etc. I think we can all get behind this. So many of the weapons felons get hold of to commit crimes come from people who do not lock them in a safe. They get stolen, and then you have trouble. We see on this very site instances of children shooting one another with a gun they “found” at least 3 times per week. Making parties in a private sale go through a background check (like you do when you purchase from a gun store) and providing proof that you can safely secure a weapon is something I think all gun owners can agree on.

  • a man

    I only said ” i can and will stop a criminal” because it was said that criminals dont stop because they see a gun. i assure u sir that if i show my gun it wont be for show and tell, and it will stop a criminal at any point i want it to. at that point it isnt up to the criminal to change his/her mind so “stopping” is out of their hands. Now I dont go around telling others what they should or shouldnt do so if you choose to be gun free while these said criminals are and have been on the rise for several years, then thats your choice, but for me and mine, we will not fall victim to them. this article was basicly about the laws on where people like myself can carry anyways. not on who owns guns or if they should or not. that is still choice, and yours and mine are different and thats ok.
    the only point i want to make is that if u ban certain places from carrying firearms, dont you think those places is where the criminals are going to attack? ill even say this…. look at all the shootings, stabbings etc that is happening in our schools. i know that especially where our children are, there needs to be very strict guidelines and background checks for this to happen because a lot of todays teachers are kind of shady themselves, but how many innocent lives could have been saved at our schools if someone had the means to put an end to a bad situation?

  • WeBuiltThisCountry

    What kinda church wants members there with a gun on their hip?I can see the expression on the new comers face LOL.

    • JT

      I noticed you did not “cherry-pick” the stories where kids shoot each other when they find an improperly stored gun…Not that you don’t have a point, but when you find that one needle in the overwhelmingly large haystack, you kinda have to acknowledge that there IS a haystack there…

  • a man

    to webuilt this country, its called concealed, which means nobody sees it nor needs to unless its needed, and at that point the new comers would probably appreciate it. not much crime in churches at this point, or at least not while church is in session. it does happen but not enough at this point for me to feel i need to carry during services though.

  • Queen Bee

    I wish there could be a rational discussion from both sides on this matter. Personally, I will never own a gun because it’s a tremendous responsibility with the potential for catastrophic consequences. And when something devastating happens, you CAN’T TAKE IT BACK.The lives of my children mean more to me than my need to own a firearm. I have lived in the largest city in the U.S. and some of the smallest towns and I have never felt so unsafe that I needed a gun. What breaks my heart is the unnecessary deaths of children. In my opinion, owning a gun is not worth the lives of children. But before anyone calls me a libtard, or something like that, I don’t have a problem with people owning guns. I just think there should be more regulation and places where guns are not allowed, like schools and bars, for instance.

    • targetsacquired

      If you live in NC, guns ARE allowed now in bars, and on school grounds IIRC if its locked and you are picking up your children…Id have to go back and look into that one, since I have no schoolage kids and its not an issue to me.

  • JT

    I kinda feel like I have over-posted here, and I apologize for that, but, with the exception of a couple of us, we’ve kept this hot-button discussion pretty civil. I’ll be the first to admit that when the tone of the conversation goes sour, it is easy to get caught up in that (as I have done in the past). But I will say this–can we see this legislation for what it is? This bill was passed to ignite partisan politics. Deal and other politicians are passing radical legislation like this (really, guns in church? c’mon…) in an effort to rally their base. And it is working; you need but look at the number of posts and the rhetoric in these posts to see that. I bet dollars to doughnuts Deal doesn’t think one really needs a concealed weapon in a church, but hey, it get both God AND guns in the conversation, and conservatives and liberals alike are sure to bite on THAT. It just feels sleazy–as John Lydon once said, “Ever feel like you’ve been cheated?”

  • stinger90

    I believe in guns, but this may turn out to be the wild wild west.

    I hope it doesn’t turn out to be that way because this may be another reason for the others to state their anti-gun law.

    • targetsacquired

      The “Wild West”: stigma is a product of Hollyweird for starters.
      But to address that comment, it has not happened in other states where similar laws took effect….like NC….
      and NO ONE has mentioned that in a little town called Kennnesaw GA, a few years back, there was an ord passed that required every homeowner to own a firearm….the citys crime rate dropped almost 75% overnight.
      Its nothing new, and its not going to turn into the Hollywood version of the OK Corral…

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