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(WBND/CNN)

A gunman killed two women inside an Indiana grocery store Wednesday night before police rushed to the scene and gunned him down.

The tragic scene played out in a sprawling grocery store in Elkhart, Indiana.

Officers were called to the scene just after 10 p.m. and found an armed man in the store, according to Indiana State Police Trooper Brooks Shirk. The man also fired at officers.

Officers fatally shot the gunman, police told CNN affiliate WXIN.

They found the bodies of two women aisles apart inside the grocery store, both of them shot by the gunman, Shirk said. One of the women was a shopper, the other was an employee.

It was unclear whether he knew the victims or if there was any connection between the three, Shirk said.

Police said the man used a semi-automatic handgun. A knife was also recovered at the scene.

Investigators scoured through a huge crime scene overnight, police said, as shell casings and debris stretched throughout the store.

The names of the gunman and victims were not released. Neither was a motive.

“You never know why this happens,” said Indiana State Police Sgt. Trent Smith “People are depressed. People do things that are not rational. You just can’t explain these things a lot of the times.”

11 comments

  • My Name

    Does everyone own a gun? and…Why?? Out of Control….You Gun loving people can say what you want but this gunning down every day is out of control!!!

      • JT

        Oh, yeah–that’s logical. Because when you hear about some nut losing it and shooting up a store/movie theater/joining an anti-government militia group/blowing up an abortion clinic/showing up to town hall meetings with assault rifles on their backs and carrying misspelled signs warning us that Obama is a “socalist,” you immediately think “Well, there’s old Kucinich and Reed out plinking with their AR 15’s again…” Man, you guys are so blinded by your hatred for people that can read, write, use logic, etc., it’s scary.

    • cc

      Exactly……………………..Conceal permit too………..Im ready for DUMBASSES like you………………………………..

    • FaithC

      We own guns because of scum like this guy. If someone in the store had their conceal and carry permit and armed maybe they could have shot this guy before he killed two people.
      If you think for one second that taking guns away will stop crime, think again. Criminals will always get illegal guns. People who what to do things like this will find a way and taking all the other guns away will just give them freedom to do it.

      • JT

        Actually, the scenario you describe (someone with a CCW taking out the gunman in the store) is erroneous. There have been studies done on this where one student in a classroom/one patron in a store has a concealed weapon. A “shooter” (generally an actor) comes into the classroom/store and begins a shooting spree. Time after time, no matter how much training the CCW student/patron has, he or she is one of the first ones shot. Now the shooter has 2 guns. In the few cases where the CCW holder is not immediately shot, he/she shoots innocent bystanders while trying to shoot the spree shooter. Look, the solution to gun crime is not more guns–especially not in the hands of Cleatuses who routinely misspell even the simplest of words on a local news site. Oh, and by the way, yes–I do own guns. Several, in fact. But I’m not so paranoid that I feel like I have to carry one into a grocery store, nor am I stupid enough to think that I can play Rambo in a spree shooting situation and be a “hero.” Get over your hero complexes, gun toters. Quit “compensating;” just because your .357 sports an eight inch barrel, that doesn’t mean you do.

  • God is good

    I have a gun, and have grown up and been around them my whole life, but that doesnt mean I want to gun down someone. Therefore not all gun owners are bad people, so thanks for not grouping us all together. Unfortunately, they end up in the wrong hands. Our society these days is to blame..

  • 1SHOT1KILL

    JT, I would say that it is you, who is here spewing vitriol, hatred, and virulence. Your vainglorious, condescending, presumptuous, and arrogance just prove that liberals such as yourself cannot provide actual facts, but instead must resort to regurgitating some liberal false talking point, name calling, insults, and flat out lying.
    The “studies” you say that “prove” that the one with the CCW was one of the first to be shot. If I am not mistaken, these “studies” were conducted by anti-gun groups and it was proven that the CCW was identified to the “shooter” prior to the “shooting rampage”. These studies have been proven to be as valid as the 1980’s NBC study on the GM trucks exploding gas tanks. On the other hand, a has been done on the effect of CCW’s in the prevention of mass shootings and it concluded that when citizens with CCW were involved in action against the mas shooter vs 911 first responders, it resulted in an 84% reduction in deaths. Specifically, where citizens with CCW got involved the death toll was 2.4 deaths and when 911 responders we the only ones involved the death toll was 14.3 deaths.

    It is also clear that the number of mass shootings has decreased as the number of CCW has increased. 30 ago, there were very few citizens with CCW permits. Most states did not allow CCW back then. The increase in CCW states mostly occurred after 1994, and the bulk of CCW permits have been issued after the turn of the new millennium. Today, it is estimated that less than 2.6% of the population has CCW permits, and 30 percent of the population of the country lives in states where it is very difficult to obtain a CCW permit, or in the case of Illinois, impossible. The first decade of the millennia showes a remarkable drop in mass shootings, a 44 percent reduction, according to Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections. Incidents of mass murder in the U.S. declined from 42 in the 1990s to 26 in the first decade of this century. These numbers are compatible with research published in 1999, that showed a drop in mass shootings with increased CCW permits.

    Also, economists John Lott and William Landes conducted a groundbreaking study in 1999, and found that a common theme of mass shootings is that they occur in places where guns are banned and killers know everyone will be unarmed, such as shopping malls and schools. One exception to this was the Aurora, CO theater shooting. The shooter had a choice of 7 movie theaters that were showing the Batman movie he was obsessed with. All were within a 20-minute drive of his home. The Cinemark Theater the killer ultimately chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals. All of the other 6 theaters allowed the approximately 4 percent of Colorado adults who have a CCW permit to enter with their weapons. One other interesting fact is, that the vast majority of these mass murdering shooters identified themselves as liberal, socialist, communist, or in other words card carrying members of your Democratic Party. Not a single one of them could be identified as a Republican Party member. Makes you proud to be a Democrat, doesn’t it???

    Sorry to blow holes through your notorious fabrications, but your lies simply cannot withstand the light of truth

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